A common fault with these keys is that one of the buttons stops working. You can tell when this is a fault with the key rather than the car because the led stops flashing. If both buttons have failed then first try the obvious and test the battery and make sure the contacts are clean. If so then you need to resort to one of two drastic solutions; buy another one (about £130) or repair it.
This is the type of key we are talking about, it is the type with two buttons and the safety slot in the end, not the proximity type. There may be other models that use a similar key, I have seen one with three buttons for instance, but I don’t know if they have the same weakness. The fault with these keys is that they use surface mount micro-switches and the “lock” one seems to be on a vulnerable part of the board which perhaps flexes and it drops off. Often you can hear it rattling loose inside.
The tools you will need are a good strong Stanley knife, a soldering iron with a very small tip (1mm or less), some long or curved-nose pliers, a strong magnifier and some super-glue.
The first task is to get inside. These are not clip-together cases, they are glued all round and on some internal ribs as well. On the photograph of my one below (click for a larger image without my annotations), I have marked the glue lines in red. The blue dots are unglued guide posts. With a strong Stanley knife and starting at the point marked “A” you can carefully cut along the edge, try to cut if you can as it doesn’t split very well—and watch your hands as the blade is liable to slip. When you reach the first bend “B” go back and do the first internal rib, then you can move round peering in the crack to see what to cut next. Be careful not to damage the components or the circuit board. A close inspection of the pictures shows the things to avoid, it is really a matter of patience, care and brute force.
As you can see, mine opened upside down, so the next step is to cut under the battery clip to separate the circuit from the case; I used a small kitchen knife to get in there.
So you should now have all the parts laid out including a loose button switch. This switch has a contact on each corner, two fold-under lugs to hold it together and two other lugs to help it stick to the board (ha! ha!). Sorry, the resolution of our camera is not good enough to see this detail. Near the centre of the circuit board you have a corresponding space with two pads on the earth plane at the top (arrowed blue), two on a track leading to the IC at the bottom (arrowed black) and two isolated holding pads (arrowed red). The orientation of the switch is important, the wrap around lugs MUST be to the sides.
With your fine tip soldering iron, clear up and tin all the contacts on the switch. Similarly clean the circuit board pads. You are well away from any delicate components here so there is not a lot of risk. Make a small solder bead on each pad. When I say small I mean small; I used a jewellers eyepiece to see what I was doing, scary with a hot soldering iron inches from my face.
Now lay the switch on top and test that it works by holding the battery in, and pressing the button. If you get the switch the wrong way around, the light will be on without pressing the button. Satisfied that it works you can solder the switch into place—holding the switch down with long pliers, touch the soldering iron to each corner and the top/bottom edges to get the solder to bridge the gap in six places. You may need to go round more than once as the component beds down to the surface. Test it again. As a final touch, I dribbled a bit of super-glue under the switch as an attempt to hold it more securely.
Now clean up the plastic parts with a knife, removing all loose bits and get the halves to mate together tightly without the circuit. You will also need to clean up the plastic part of the battery clip. Lay the circuit into the back cover, there should be two positioning pegs to hold it in place. Apply a drop of glue to the battery clip to secure it and leave it for a few moments to set. Finally run a bead of glue around the outside edges and the main internal rib, bring the parts together and clamp (clothes pegs) or weight it until it sets. How many of the original lines you do depends on if you are likely to want to undo it again but I would suggest omitting the front of the battery clip.
For the technical, the numbers on the components are: the big round piece (transmitter coil?) is 50751, the DIL package (encoder?) is Phillips PCF7947AT with other numbers 16793102 and DnD00350. The small silvery unit (oscillator crystal?) has EPC05, R727 and M5MN. A Google search didn’t turn up much.
Nice one ive had the same trouble with my card and im goin to try your method tonight 🙂
Thankyou!!!!!!!
Saved us a small fortune!!!!
thankyou thankyou thankyou you just saved me £130 thanks.it only cost £2.60 for the mersey tunnel to lend my mates soldering iron.
clark electronics in stirling sorts the keys at around £25,they are at the old john player factory,
[edited for language] I lost my second card with the same problem locking button I contacted RENAULT for prices and delivery of Card they responsed 250 Euros per card. These french they make money of service only. during my working days in supplier manager I had to enquire for electric related part for DISA CATINAIR machine made in france every 5 hours.
Thanks a lot I see a little hope on saving 500 Euros.. If I manage to fix them both.. will update on monday.
I had both my keys repaired by Davidson electronics. It was the same fault in each.
it cost more than other repairs I have seen advertised, but I am very happy with the result.
It seems these keys are almost designed to fail. I’m sure that can’t be the case though 😉
i had asimilar problem iopen the key but the press on and off switch was of?iad to by 2 new keys,its cost me £220. and its take 2 days to fix?now ihave another problem?the key his suppose to loock when the enging is on,wen i was dryving my son was playing the radio,and notice that the key was not fully pust in,and asked me if this was right,at that time irealise you can remouve the key,and still drive?i check the manual book and found out this should not appen,i contac renault, wich canot give an explanation,and asked me to book the car in for investigation,his any body have this problem befor,any sugesion.sorry for my spelling thank in advance.ps it will cost £50.00 to investigate.+
If your key is of the type with the hole in the front then a pin should engage by solenoid when the engine is started. If it doesn’t then it sounds like the solenoid has failed. Other varieties of key such as on the new Meganne don’t have the pin and can be removed. I have no idea how they manage the integrity of the system with this.
Excellent advice. Didnt work for me damaged small resistor top left adjacent to the unlock button on the PCB. Also had great difficulity soldering the micro switch back on. Not for the faint hearted. But obvioulsy can be done.
I have done the repair, the red light works BUT it doesn’t lock / unlock the door. Any help appreciated
These Laguna Card Key are a joke. They have been very badly manufactured with inferior components.
They have probably been manufactured in China for next to nothing, and if you have to replace them Renault will charge you a minimum of £75 + vat and the garage £40 + vat for programming the thing.
A complete rip off.
Hi there,
Just to let people know (if the don’t already) that the switches are not the only point of failure for these cards. I’ve had two fail for dry/open joints on the chip which sits right alongside the coil on these.
A temporary measure & also how to check for this failure mode is to press hard in the place where the chip is. This is normally about halfway up & just 1/3rd of the way in from the left or so while pressing the button that isn’t working. It may take a couple of goes to find this but it will confirm if this is the failure mode (the light will flash indicating it’s working if this is the problem) and as a bonus it’ll allow you to use the card nearly normally.
For a permanent fix you will have to open up the card & resolder/reflow the joints which is a pain but at least you can use it while saving up fo a new one……
The cause is flexing of the card while in use (back pocket anyone) which will stress the solder joints & eventually cause failure so always keep any new cards out of places where they may be prone to flexing.
Hope this helps.
J
Again, very useful James. Thanks.
In my back pocket it wouldn’t survive 5 minutes 🙂
If your not up to soldering (like me) this lot fixed mine.
http://www.keyrepair.co.uk had it back in 2 days! works great now.
Paul
Thanks! Cutting open was a little hard but with your help I fixed my keycard within 45 minutes. Much obliged.
hi i put my card in to start it up but it is doing nothing the indicators are not working and what is just working is the radio could it be the card or could it be something else could you email me today if possible thanks.
another thing the stering lock is not coming of as well.
Ash, Putting the key in the slot trips a micro switch which activates some circuits which is probably what you are seeing. Others require the interaction with the engine management computer using the coded key. It sounds like this is not working for you. It looks like a garage job to me. If both keys do the same it sounds like a fault with the computer.
Thanks mate great advice, just repaird both keys in under an hour.
THANX AGAIN.
Hi,
i have a more difficult problem. i broke one of my cards pretty badly.
i managed to put it together – inc resoldering the close button – but i still have one tiny smd part missing. this is eighter a resistor or a capacitor right above th coil, standing there all alone.
can anybody make a close-up picture from this? the other card is a 3 btn proximity one, so i can’t be sure that they share all parts.
besides the card stores pretty much data:
– VIN (acording to renault dealers/service personel (asked more) the card can only be programmed once)
– mileage
– miles left to next inspection
– tire pressure details (if the car supports it)
the renault folks have a reader device connected to their pc so they can read it in 1-2 seconds. i asked about buying such a gear, but they were negative.
When I bought this car I sent he missus out in it for a spin. On returning she said “Yes it’s very nice….but why doesn’t it just have a key?
Renault need to be applauded for inventing a flashy gimmick to wow the punters, which needs replacing every time it gets sat on. Bloody marvelous. Best after sale money machine I ever heard of.
Thanks for the repairing instructions, which I followed successfully, with only minor burns.
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