A common fault with these keys is that one of the buttons stops working. You can tell when this is a fault with the key rather than the car because the led stops flashing. If both buttons have failed then first try the obvious and test the battery and make sure the contacts are clean. If so then you need to resort to one of two drastic solutions; buy another one (about £130) or repair it.
This is the type of key we are talking about, it is the type with two buttons and the safety slot in the end, not the proximity type. There may be other models that use a similar key, I have seen one with three buttons for instance, but I don’t know if they have the same weakness. The fault with these keys is that they use surface mount micro-switches and the “lock” one seems to be on a vulnerable part of the board which perhaps flexes and it drops off. Often you can hear it rattling loose inside.
The tools you will need are a good strong Stanley knife, a soldering iron with a very small tip (1mm or less), some long or curved-nose pliers, a strong magnifier and some super-glue.
The first task is to get inside. These are not clip-together cases, they are glued all round and on some internal ribs as well. On the photograph of my one below (click for a larger image without my annotations), I have marked the glue lines in red. The blue dots are unglued guide posts. With a strong Stanley knife and starting at the point marked “A” you can carefully cut along the edge, try to cut if you can as it doesn’t split very well—and watch your hands as the blade is liable to slip. When you reach the first bend “B” go back and do the first internal rib, then you can move round peering in the crack to see what to cut next. Be careful not to damage the components or the circuit board. A close inspection of the pictures shows the things to avoid, it is really a matter of patience, care and brute force.
As you can see, mine opened upside down, so the next step is to cut under the battery clip to separate the circuit from the case; I used a small kitchen knife to get in there.
So you should now have all the parts laid out including a loose button switch. This switch has a contact on each corner, two fold-under lugs to hold it together and two other lugs to help it stick to the board (ha! ha!). Sorry, the resolution of our camera is not good enough to see this detail. Near the centre of the circuit board you have a corresponding space with two pads on the earth plane at the top (arrowed blue), two on a track leading to the IC at the bottom (arrowed black) and two isolated holding pads (arrowed red). The orientation of the switch is important, the wrap around lugs MUST be to the sides.
With your fine tip soldering iron, clear up and tin all the contacts on the switch. Similarly clean the circuit board pads. You are well away from any delicate components here so there is not a lot of risk. Make a small solder bead on each pad. When I say small I mean small; I used a jewellers eyepiece to see what I was doing, scary with a hot soldering iron inches from my face.
Now lay the switch on top and test that it works by holding the battery in, and pressing the button. If you get the switch the wrong way around, the light will be on without pressing the button. Satisfied that it works you can solder the switch into place—holding the switch down with long pliers, touch the soldering iron to each corner and the top/bottom edges to get the solder to bridge the gap in six places. You may need to go round more than once as the component beds down to the surface. Test it again. As a final touch, I dribbled a bit of super-glue under the switch as an attempt to hold it more securely.
Now clean up the plastic parts with a knife, removing all loose bits and get the halves to mate together tightly without the circuit. You will also need to clean up the plastic part of the battery clip. Lay the circuit into the back cover, there should be two positioning pegs to hold it in place. Apply a drop of glue to the battery clip to secure it and leave it for a few moments to set. Finally run a bead of glue around the outside edges and the main internal rib, bring the parts together and clamp (clothes pegs) or weight it until it sets. How many of the original lines you do depends on if you are likely to want to undo it again but I would suggest omitting the front of the battery clip.
For the technical, the numbers on the components are: the big round piece (transmitter coil?) is 50751, the DIL package (encoder?) is Phillips PCF7947AT with other numbers 16793102 and DnD00350. The small silvery unit (oscillator crystal?) has EPC05, R727 and M5MN. A Google search didn’t turn up much.
YEP , 2 of my keys have gone now , with the door close button broken on both,
1 was only 6 months old and Renault refused to change it
the easiest way to lock the car now is Via the back door and hitting the centre console locking button , sometimes it will let you do it with the drivers door open , using the central lock button , buts its a bit tempermental
ive sent one to keycard repair , cost £24 and will save me mucking it up . and save me another £100 on new key and programming.
ive heard to reprogram key cards ,(i dont think this works with new cards ) though , but if your battery has gone flat in an old key card this should sort it .
LAGUNA II RESYNCHRONISING
1. Turn the Ignition OFF.
2. Press the central door locking button for more than 5 seconds. Note: the door should lock then unlock.
3. When this happens 15 seconds is allowed and the immobiliser warning light illuminates.
4. Point the 1st key at the receiver and press the button once, the doors should lock and unlock.
5. Point the 2nd key at the receiver and press the button once, the doors should lock and unlock.
6. Check the remote control unlocks and locks the doors.
tyre pressure problem over inflater the problem tyre to 40 psi , turn on key and drive around for a bit , then stop and return the tyre to 30psi
after 10 minutes of driving round , this should cure it , if it doesnt then its because you bought a Renault laguna .lol
IMPORTANT: CHECK THE VALVE ON EACH WHEEL , there should be a coloured ring around it (clean them to see) no colour, yellow, green & red , open the drivers door and on the side of it is a wheel chart sticker , showing where each wheel should go ,
because if a previous owner or garage have swapped around your tyres you could be pumping up the wrong one .
trouble is , with cold weather approaching its still going to happen all the time ,
another common fault , knocking noised when you pull away/ brake etc,
THEN when you accelerate hard it pulls to the left and when you take your foot off it goes to the right , making driving on motorways highly dangerous.
,its just a loose nut on the driving apperatus , that come loose now and again . ive been driving like it for 2 years , with kids in the car , 4 visits later to the garage and they find it , A LOOSE NUT ,, TIGHTENED £10
drives like a dream now .
God help LAGANUA 3 due out soon
Hello, I need some help. Have just bought a second hand mark 2 laguna and has only come with one keycard…it works for now but having no spare is no good for me. I have seen many second hand ones for sale on ebay but I am not convinced that a secnd hand card can be coded to your car and indeed if a dealer wold be prepared to do it. Any ideas?
I wish we could get an authoritative report on how these work and what is possible. One thing I know is that the door unlocking mechanism is separate from the ignition system and uses different parts of the key hardware. so to replace a key, both need to be tuned. I also think that it is the car that needs to be re-programmed, not the key but I may be wrong there.
Thank You!
All three of my Laguna keys had become faulty and so you’ve just saved me £390!
Many Thanks,
Adam
I may have got a couple of burnt fingers but your info saved me £130. Thank you very much.
Hi, I’m the guy with the three faulty cards (Posted 1rd Dec).
After using your method above I have discovered after fixing one key so that the light goes on when pressing the lock or unlock button that the car wouldn’t recognise it and thus wouldn’t start either, I beleive that the heat from the soldering iron must have wiped the data on the card.
However, on the second card, after opening the card I filled the back of the round hole (used for the faulty switch which had fallen off) with BlueTack to the top. Then covered the top of the bluetack with TinFoil to create an electrical contact, now once the card is sealed and teh button is pressed the car will unlock.
This method not only saved me a great ammount of time, burnt fingers and money but it is totally reversable if your not happy with the repare.
I strongly suggest that you try this method as its very qhick and easy to do!
Adam
Hi, Can anybody help me. I have not used my Laguna DCI ( year 2001 ) since December 2007. I went to it yesterday to start it , pressed the door button to open the doors and NOTHING. Then when I manually opened the door, and inserted the key card, at the first try , on the dash board it showed ” Insert your card ” but did nothing else. Took it out and tried it again , but now all the time the dash board is showing nothing apart from a rapid flashing red light. The radio comes on but that is no use to me as I need to start it. What shall I do ?? Can anyone help…… as this is now my third card !!!!!!!!!! and it is still virtually new ( September last year ).
Any suggestions or help from anyone would be much appreciated ……………
Regards
Jon.
Hi everyone, really need some help here if anyone could offer. After work went to open the car and didn’t work, so i though was the battery on the card, however the flash on the card was coming on but i spoke to Renault customer services and they said sometimes the flash still comes on if the battery is dying.
Went in the car via passengers door using the manual key and nothing was working inside, no hazard lights nothing, so now i think the car battery is totally flat, but what is worrying me now that because i changed the battery on the card it might need reprogramming. The card battery was out of the card for approx 15 mins..
Can anyone help please??
Jon, I don’t think I can help here. My 2000 model doesn’t have the message “Insert your card” that I have ever seen. The symptoms seem to be a problem with the Engine Management Computer. The aux circuit (radio) is just a micro switch.
Aldo – no worries about card re-programming. Changing the battery in the card doesn’t affect anything – it is not the card that gets programmed, it is the car.
Hi Rick,
Thanks for your quick response. What about if it was the inmobiliser ?? how can this be affected and what can I do ?
Regards
Jon
Hello,
I am from Holland and also have a problem with an Espace Key Card. The card could not open or close the doors anymore although starting the car was not a problem. There was no RF on 433.92 Mhz. I opened the card and found 6 chip parts loose. Do you have a photo of the PCB in higher resolution than used in the article so I can try to put the parts back in the right place.
Kinds Regards,
Dolf van Delft
Hi Dolf, I have made the last image into a link to a hi-res picture. That is the best I can do with my camera! I hope that helps.
Thanks,
I used your manual to fix my keycard and it worked out perfectly.
Well done!!!
Grtz Marco
Hi, my trip computer on my renault laguna 04,1.9dci does not work, can anybody help me out? thanks in advance.
Gulpat
Sorry, can’t help you on that one, particularly with no details.
Hi, I have one of the original keys that wont lock or unlock the car but the red led shows when either button is pressed and when it is put into the ignition, the light round the key housing flash’s and the immobiliser light flash’s. Is this a physical error, or a program error? The other key works fine.
I have a Laguna 53 plate. The speakers on the stereo have an annoying vibration noise when certain base or treble noises come out. It’s like a rattling. Has anybody suffered from this and if so is there a cure
thanks
dave
If you don’t want to do it yourself, here is another company that will repair your keys at a modest cost.
They are very clear that a) Second hand keys cannot be reprogrammed for your car and b) If the key starts the car then it should be able to open the doors when repaired.
David – this sounds like you have a foreign body on the speaker cone – perhaps a bit of grit or something. On a domestic speaker I would suggest that you have blown a cone but that is quite hard to do on a standard car system (i.e. excluding the boom boom boom machines on wheels that live around us). I suggest that you prize the grill off and have a look inside.
Hi there, I have lost my key card on a 2001 laguna, if I buy a second hand one from ebay can it be reprogrammed, if so how do you do it, HELP PLEASE!!
Picking up my Laguna 2 tmorrow – but the battery has died in the card – what battery do i need to buy?